What kind of world do we want?

A conversation with author Patty Krawec

B. Lorraine Smith
33 min readDec 16, 2022
Cover of Becoming Kin by Patty Krawec, a remarkably accessible book that ties our history with our future. A candid yet compelling clarion call.

I had the great pleasure of speaking with author Patty Krawec about how she came to accidentally write one of the most important books of our time, Becoming Kin — An Indigenous Call to Unforgetting the Past and Reimagining Our Future.

From serendipitously listening to conversations about race, to what that listening means for people and industry in the future—this was an eye-opening, ear-opening, mind-opening chat.

You’re welcome to have a listen.

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Written transcript (lightly edited for clarity):

Lorraine Smith: Patty Krawec, thank you so much for joining me on this afternoon. It’s kind of cloudy where both of us are…



B. Lorraine Smith

Former sustainability consultant replacing ESG with reality-based insights about corporate purpose and impact. https://www.blorrainesmith.com/